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Kalifornians discovered Idaho back in the 80’s, and they haven’t stopped showing up. This isn’t a new phenomenon. The common attitude from Kalifornians back then was “Oh, we’ll show you unenlightened hicks how things are supposed to work!” As if the reason they left their pathetic shithole state and moved up here was because somehow the way they did things in their pathetic shithole state was somehow better. A popular bumper sticker back in those days were “Dear Californians: Welcome to Idaho. Now go home.”
I should point out that most of these Kalifornians were from Los Angeles County and the Bay Area. You never saw a conservative leave the Central Valley and move up, or at least you didn’t see it very much.
Many of the Kalifornians were stereotypically ignorant and arrogant. They knew how to run things, and we backwards sister-humping Jesus-freaks were too stupid to be listened to. When we said outrageous things like “Hey, the snowplow throws snow for a good ten to twelve feet, you might not want to put your fence that close to the road” we were sneered at and ignored. The broken fenceposts that appeared from under the melting snow in the spring somehow never seemed to effect their thinking the next time around. “Hey, the curve in the road right there is graded wrong, you might want to slow down as you approach it.” Once again, we gun-fondling flyover country bumpkins couldn’t possibly know what we were talking about, as proven by the way all four tires were spinning in the air as their fancy SUV was overturned on the curve during a cool fall morning, where frost on a curve in the road lasted a little bit longer due to shade.
That continued into the 90’s. In 2005, Forbes magazine listed Coeur d’Alene, ID as one of the top five towns in America were people could retire.
The words uttered by my family are not fit even for a sailor’s ears.
Now not only were we flooded with Kalifornians, but people from Portlandia and the People’s Democratic Republic of Seattle (aka the Putrid Sound). Housing prices shot through the roof. The land that I purchased back in 2003 is now worth quite a bit more than I paid, to the point where I couldn’t afford to buy it today if I tried. Myself back in 2003, pinching pennies so hard that I was re-inventing copper wire, could afford to purchase land, but myself now, far wealthier and better off, couldn’t afford that same patch of land if it was available.
Housing prices never came down. But one thing that I’ve noticed changing is the people coming up from Kalifornia. Rather than the typical Kalifornians, we’re getting Californians who have had enough of the commie bullshit and decided that they weren’t going to get steamrolled by the Marxist anti-American godless heathens. They got out while they could, and headed to the mountains. A couple of them are my neighbors out in the hills. One of them has a flock of sheep that they raise, shear, and then they card and spin the wool themselves. Another is a couple retirees who have a shooting range in their backyard, and happily note that Idaho has a law saying a suppressor that is made in Idaho, of Idaho materials, sold to an Idaho resident, doesn’t fall under FEDERAL laws. So long as it stays in Idaho and doesn’t travel over a state border, you don’t need a tax stamp for it.
He has two. And they’re stamped “MADE IN IDAHO” rather prominently.
Ask them about their prior homes, and they might express some longing for the beautiful parts that made them live there in the first place, but then the conversation turns to why they left. And they express quite a bit of anger. Anger at the Marxists, anger at the low-information sheeple who keep voting for the Marxists. Anger at the Left for destroying what was a beautiful state. Instead of the stereotypical “We know how to run things!” we now have people saying “They screwed shit up so bad I couldn’t stay, and I won’t let them do that here.”
We still have the arrogant, ignorant Marxist shitlibs around. Far too many. But they are the minority and they’re getting outgrown by the based, red-pilled people moving in.
All of that was brought to mind by the cartoon above. Yesterday at the farmer’s market, several of the people who I know came from California recently were walking around with a gun on their hip. And if any Kalifornian had tried to say something, I have no doubt the result would have been a most unpleasant discussion for the Marxist.
Just some food for thought.
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I will be retiring in the next few years and currently reside somewhere in the Peoples Republic of New York. My family has been here since the 1690’s and we’re now going to have to leave here, it’s become that bad. Idaho was one of the places I was looking at, but I’m afraid of going halfway across the country and settling down, only to have to move again in say, five years or so.
My old army boss resides next door in Montana and advised that I might want to check out ID first. Reason being, there is more in the way of jobs there. The authors thoughts on the above comments would be appreciated.
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Depends on the job and the location. In Coeur d’Alene proper, there are more service-based jobs than anything else. The town went from mining/logging based economy in the 80’s to a tourist/service based economy today. The average salary in CdA is a few percentage points lower than the national average, but the cost of living (with one huge exception) is also lower. However, housing costs are through the roof. I was looking at buying a rental property when I came back to the area. You can’t find a decent house in town for less than $500,000. And that’s the bottom end, it only goes up from there. A fixer-upper will cost you $250k-$300k. These houses were selling for $30k when I left high school.
Once you leave the CdA metro area, your options for work get more limited, but the cost of living goes down even more. Again, it depends on what skills you have. I know the Bonner County Sherriff’s department was hiring a dispatcher for about $25 an hour, and that’s enough to get a house up there. I don’t have much info on Montana, but I know that the metro areas are growing, and they seem to have quite a bit of job opportunity.
Did you consider Wyoming?
Wyoming is a way too niche zone. Unless you are monied up, it is getting very expensive to do a resettlement type of move there. There is cheap trailer towns, but you are in ritchie and the trailer park boys neighborhoods with meth heads and attendant problems. There is no property tax caps or systems of limitations, thus you will end up paying hundreds a month or a couple or few thousand in mandatory taxes yearly in a short time. It is august and then winter here in a zone 4 sub artic higher elevation climate. You must be very hardy and tough. Half or more of the deer and antelope herds got decimated last winter fwiw. Reasons why the population is low and kids leave the state for opportunities elswhere. Make it a hard pass on Wyoming.
C, get out of there quickly. Idaho is a fine destination for your relocation, I believe; almost anywhere in the northern tier along the high line – as long as you don’t expect it to be new york – will suit you and yours.
A while back we moved up here, lots of sacrifice and things were not easy for a while, but we have no regrets.
Your old army boss is correct in steering you to Idaho first, because he’s a Montanan…
As for Montana; we’re full here – but we hear the Dakotas are nice.
Original Grandpa
Californians are the very worst part of Idaho, no question. We lived up in the panhandle for a number of years on a small farm/homestead. I got my ccw early on, and carried both concealed and open quite a bit. When I open carried, most often folks would show interest in the weapon, or thank me for being armed and thereby minding everyone’s safety. Occasionally, however, I’d see someone (oddly, ALWAYS a dude) lock eyes on my weapon, then the feigned-wild-eyed terror would fill their expression (as if I was going to randomly open fire at any moment) and then they’d hurriedly beat feet for their car. These are Calis or other, similarly, poorly-bred and filled-to-the-brim with statist-approved propaganda. Meeting such as these is very similar to accidentally stepping into animal waste-annoying, inconvenient, curiously noteworthy but otherwise penultimately inconsequential. Leftists, misled as they are, are a pox, a canker, a disease on humanity. Until and unless they repent of their wickedness and their folly they are unfit for any part or place in civil society.
Good one! My Idaho wife (Grangeville, Pierce, and Post Falls), oldest daughter, and I moved here over 8 years ago. After several unpleasant years in SoCal and then 12 years on the Oregon Coast taking care of elderly family members, she wanted to go home. I was flabbergasted by the amount of Red Diaper Doper Babies, Karens, Beta Males and other assorted leftist dreck and their sexual deviate remoras here in Kootenai County. Yes, they are a minority, but they have a strident voice in the local Daily Fish Wrap (CDA/PF Press) which is owned by the Hagadone Cabal. Plus, there are leftist movements afoot, in the guise of “fairness” such as Reclaim Idaho, and North Idaho “Republicans” who are determined to turn the Gem State blue, via open primaries and “gimme moar guvmint freebies.”
The “public schools” here are like “public schools” pretty much everywhere in the FSSA. However, there is a huge increase in STEM schools, Charter schools, private Christian/Catholic schools, and home school cooperatives. Not all parents want their children ending up as shambling, texting, slack-jawed, mouth-breathing, brain-dead, vaping Mall Zombies. I saw the “public-school” products firsthand when I worked as a teacher’s aide at a local high school.
Jefferson wrote “Eternal vigilance is the price of liberty.” The big fight here now is keeping the sheeple, normies, and cuckold’s feet to the fire to stay involved in local politics and thwart the machinations of the Marxist-Abortionist Party to turn Idaho into a socialist septic tank. Bleib ubrig.
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I’m also in Kootenai, we’ll have to get together some time.
I agree with the comments on the local fishwrap. It’s as if the only opinions they bother to print are all found in the same square mile of town, where anything outside that mile is just a blank spot on a map that reads “Here there be dragons”. At least the CdA Press does a decent job on high school sports.
As for the publik skool sistim here…. all I can say is that I was forced to attend here, and I would have rather cut off my own balls than spend another day inside that hellhole. When I graduated I felt like I’d been released from jail. There weren’t as many options back when I was in high screwel, and my dear parents were oblivious to the problems back then.
Got too many similar ones from MA and CT and RI here in NH. We actually had one from CA who had – by her own admission – moved here to “educate” the NH rubes. Finally left in disgust as we, collectively, refused to see the error of our ways.
Now, I’m MA-born, but people here don’t hold that against me. 🙂
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I happen to have been born in California. On a USMC base, but still California. Left when I was two, didn’t come back until I was 37. Left again, won’t go back.
When we moved to our small town in NW Wyoming, we were often asked where we came from. We found that the best explanation was, “We’re political and economic refugees from the Soviet Socialist State of Minnesota”, which is usually good for a laugh. It also helps explain that we have a less-than-zero interest in changing the culture (cowboy), economics (laissez faire capitalist) and political climate (staunchly conservative) here.
Bear in mind that there are basically two types of people moving in from liberal shit-head states: The first are colonizers for the collectivist/statist/authoritarians, and the second are refugees like ourselves.
The colonizers want to bring their collectivist BS here, and ignore that their “best of intentions” have always and invariably led to utter disaster. Having (if you’ll pardon the phrase) shit the bed where they lived, they now want to have a new bed to shit in.
Refugees want to preserve what made the new place better. We lived in the Heart of the Hive™ for 27 years watching left-wing policies destroy the city. We have the experience of having watched the camel’s nose in the tent turn into the entire stinking beast to take over everything, and are here to warn the relatively innocent people of how the lefties insidiously work. As Rand said (paraphrasing), “…with so much evidence we can no longer believe that they are either blind or innocent”, and we no longer grant them the grace of having good intentions.
They’re just plain evil.
All of you transplants no matter where you are moving to , upon your arrival never utter the phrase of eternal damnation , ” well back in (insert shithole “) we did it like this” . I grew up in Maine left for work which happened to be in wait for it – Wyo , MT, ID and Utah . was there 30 plus yrs. and loved every minute of it , now taking care of family members I’ve returned to Maine now over run by every imaginable TARD there is the Natives are fine but the controlling Political Powers are Borderline Demonic with a State Speaker of the House who is SCREAMING for 75,000 members of Sub Saharan Feral wildlife . She by the way is an EFF and ANC supporter. Needless to say it is a mess and if it isn’t it will do until a mess gets here.
There is no gun registration in Idaho..
Cascade Idaho paper did a story about a California moose hunter. Shot a guys mule and four of them got the mule on a four heeler trailer and took it to game station to check it in and the state game guy asked if they noticed it was shooed. THIS AIN’T A JOKE I HAVE THE ARTICLE.
A lot of these retirees are well pensioned and have nothing better to do than proselytize their communist ideology.
It is up to the locals, as busy as they are, must run for school boards,library boards, common councils and other local offices. This is how the towns and counties start to turn blue.
I moved from WI to AZ and I own a small ranch. Getting gas and diesel at a Petro on I-40, I noticed people in a minivan watching me. The driver didn’t fill his minivan but took a long way around and walked into the office.
I realized he was watching my open carried sig as I was filling the tank and cans. As he slithered back in his minivan, I noticed the NJ license plate. As they took off, I told them CA was that away.
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Idafornian here, fled California 5+ years ago and moved to Idaho. We are way more conservative, more freedom loving, and more firm in our faith and convictions than most native born Idahoans I’ve met and talked with. Maybe it’s different in the north, but that’s been our experience in southwestern Idaho. We didn’t leave the northeastern part of California we were born and raised in because we wanted to, we left because we fought and fought to keep what we had, lost year after year, hard times are coming and strong men to stand with were few and far between there. Here there are more, some native, many refugees like us, but people willing to stand up and hold fast.
I’m in a smaller county here, with mostly native Idahoans. The political leadership is weak, the churches are weak, the good ol’ party rules the day and people just want to be left alone pretending things aren’t changing. Been there, done that back in California. (People forget California elected a ‘Republican’ governor just 20 years ago, and the majority of Californians voted to define marriage as between a man and a woman back then too. It’s still part of the state constitution).
Sure, we can complain about too many people moving here, prices getting too expensive, people bring their politics with them… Doesn’t fix anything. We can’t stop the change. But talking, training, teaching, preaching, challenging one another, planting sound churches, raising strong men, holding fast…
I’m not an Idahoan. Nor am I Californian. Those are political terms that come and go. I’m a sojourner, looking for the city which has foundations, whose architect and builder is God. Maranatha!
EXCELLENT ANALYSIS! …and not just happening in Idaho…
In addition to the “Feminization” of the Industrial World and America’s “Males” over the last three plus decades, I have found the following issue in organizing groups for what I describe as a Neighborhood Protection Plan. Call it what you like, but you will not survive what’s coming without the cooperation and association of likeminded people around you.
The “Conservatives” moving to my Southwest State’s area to escape the lunacy of their Nanny State, such as California, are afraid of their own shadows.
In organizing your area, this Pseudo Conservative will label your attempts as hysteria, conspiratorial, or whacko and even use the namby-pamby term “offensive,” despite that they consider themselves Traditional Conservatives, which they are not. Some who have moved from Red or Liberal “Nanny States” are tainted by an irreversible mental state of Liberalism and they don’t know it.
They want to talk and study everything to death. Common sense issues become “offensive” to these people and paralyzes them. They do not want you to know, but they are frightened to the Bejebers of instituting, or even discussing any plan that will use force, deadly or not, against people invading their neighborhood. “You can’t do that!” they say. F ’em.
They will most likely be discussing issues as their front door is being kicked in by desperate people intent on taking what they have and harming or killing them in the process when all goes upside down. The rest of us in the neighborhood will probably watch. Good riddance to them.
When people have been immersed in the septic tank shytte of Liberalism for some time, they may move to your area to escape it, but they still have the shytte of the septic tank on them. This will be in the form of “Oh, you can’t do that!” They are used to being told everything they can or cannot do by government regulation to the nano particle of life, where they used to live. This is the subtle damaging effect of propaganda they bring with them. They no longer have the balls God gave them. Forget them.
The answer? Avoid these people. Tell them to F off. You will find plenty of “hard core” people in your neighborhood who WILL stand with you. Just don’t count on any “Conservative” from California.
Any Species that cannot or will not defend themselves, is doomed to extinction as Mother Nature has shown
Jack Lawson
Associate Member, Sully H. deFontaine Special Forces Association Chapter 51, Las Vegas, Nevada
Author of the “Civil Defense Manual,” “The Slaver’s Wheel,” “A Failure of Civility,” “And We Hide From The Devil” and “In Defense.”
“I’ve seen things you people wouldn’t believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I’ve watched c-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhauser Gate. Those moments will be lost in time… like tears in rain.” – Rutger Hauer in his “Time to die” scene from the movie “Blade Runner”
In my memories are the above in a figurative sense… the below in the literal reality of my past…
“I’ve seen things you people wouldn’t believe. The moonlit landscape of Zambia I parachuted into at two o’clock in the morning with 40 pounds of explosives in my drop pack on an “external,” a raid on a Communist Terrorist camp. I’ve watched a frightened, but still majestic and graceful family of giraffes gallop the African bush as I hung out the door of a helicopter flying by them at treetop level, almost close enough to touch them. I’ve battled it out with Communist terrorists mano a mano while neck deep in crocodile infested idle waters on the banks and sandbars of the Honde and Limpopo Rivers in Mozambique”
From Jack Lawson… an American in 1RLI Support Commando and attached to Rhodesian “C Squadron” SAS Africa 1976-79
“HOO-RAH!” to Jack Lawson.
He calls ’em like he sees ’em.
…better a day or two EARLY than one minute LATE.
Ada/Canyon counties (Boise metro) are going to turn the whole state blue as happened in Nevada due to Lost Vegas